ࡱ> #` %rbjbjmm BFFFFFFFZZ9Vb    !!!\8^8^8^8^8^8^8$/;h=8F+!"!++8FF  9$4$4$4+ F F \8$4+\8$4$4FF$4 V PlU1$44909$4%>3X%>$4%>F$4!2$H$4A')!!!884!!!9++++ZZZZZZZZZFFFFFF    HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Montenegro.svg" \o " Flag of Montenegro (2004present)"  INCLUDEPICTURE "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Flag_of_Montenegro.svg/250px-Flag_of_Montenegro.svg.png" \* MERGEFORMATINET  REPUBLIC OF ALBANIA REPUBLIC OF MONTENEGRO MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT, FORESTRY MINISTRY OF SPATIAL PLANNING AND AND WATER ADMINISTRATION ENVIRONMENT LAKE SKADAR-SHKODRA INTEGRATED ECOSYSTEM MANAGEMENT PROJECT  WORLD BANK SLC Fifth Meeting of Skadar / Shkodra Lake WGs in Shkoder, Albania 28th April 2011 -List of participants in attached in the Annex 1. -Meeting Agenda is attached in the Annex 2. The meeting session was opened by the secretary of SLC, presenting the agenda and all the participants. Novak Cadjenovic Commented the agenda and the functioning of the WGs in general. This is my first meeting of the WGs and I think the Work Plan should be reconstructed. About the agenda topics, all the working group members have to be present. I am talking about the future work of the WGs. In the future WGs should meet separately. (The material will be prepared by the two coordinators and they will hand it to the WGs, to make things more efficient) Working materials for each WG should be prepared in advance as well as respective Agenda and in close communication with WG members by secretariat. Coordinators will be glad to provide project documentation relevant to the subject of WG meetings if any. Nihat Dragoti I agree with the idea to rethink the Work Plan and create specific WGs. We should try to contact qualified people and experts. I suggest that the Work Plan schedule a meeting to include all the groups, in order to raise the quality of the work. Agim Shimaj  The object of this project is to strengthen the across-border structures: WGs, SLC and Secretariat and if the project is closed in 2012, the work of these structures must keep going on. I agree that the WGs have the agenda two weeks before the meetings. This agenda must not consider the project only, but also the problems that the two Ministries have to face. I suggest to start with the agendas preparation within the WGs and then that they be discussed with the ministries and the local government. The WGs should be separated because the topics are defined for each WG. If they are two smilliar topics for two WGs, they could be discussed together, e.i. Monitoring and Waters, and annually all the WGs could meet, be their will to set a date for that meeting. Another suggestion that I have is for the Albanian Party, that its time to reorganise the WGs, because they members who do not even participate in meetings. I suggest that the secretary should start contacting the respective institutions in order to start replacing them. Since the foundation of the WGs, two years ago, changes have taken place that have proved to be very helpful, because with replacing the members that didnt contribute enough I think there is space to add more members now. I think that the members of the WGs could also discuss with each-other via e-mails, since meetings are scheduled, but its important that they work together in the mean time. Petrit Ymeraj The project ends in 2012. I do not see how changing the WGs now can help, because we have discussed this two years ago. The WGs have been the most nobel part of this project, because they are professionals and they have volunteered to work here. I call upon all participants that we use this time maximally and raise our cooperation in protecting and promoting the Lake of Shkodra. Rrezarta Ago I have a suggestion for the WGs. If its possible to review the Work Plan by Mr. Novak and Mr. Agim, to be discussed in the Ministries and Secretariat. Bearing in mind that in Shkoder there are donors who work, and their work could be related with our project here, we have opportunities for promotion and realization of the project. In conclusion we must unite. Pavle Duraakovi    Having considered the agenda, lets take turns, each group lets discuss in turns. Novak Cadjenovic Expecting from Mr. Ilir that the conclusions made today will included in the minutes of meeting, that WGs have agreed that for the future, we start work with the existing agenda. It is essential that we include in the WGs, individuals that are experts and have qualifications related to our project to improve quality of discussion. Confident in the Secretary to reorganise the Work Plan, to set the dates and the agenda points and to contact and add more members in the WGs. The Progress Report has been predicted to be discussed in the WGs, but I believe that WGs should discuss other issues such as: Deepening of Buna, Water plants of Ashta and Moraa, and any otherissues that members of WG agree upon. Ivana Pavi evi    Taking into account that I have just been handed this PHM report today, I have not got any comment regarding it, so far. Skender Hasa   Declaring that after the meeting of both Ministries, the Albanian party is collaborating with the WB and the process on the credit of flooding emergencies is almost over. Novak Cadjenovic It is hard to discuss if the documentation is not delivered timely and prior the meeting. Writing comments can be submitted to the Secretariat or coordinators after the meeting and I believe that we will have time in the next meeting to discuss progress on this issue . Pavle Duraakovi    I have read the English and the Montenegrin version of the Monitoring Progress Report, that do not match completely. I feel I have to present some suggestions and comments, that I will edit and present in the next meeting. Comment: He makes a short analysis eg. Table 16 In Sterbec, as a hotspot and a center for continuing monitoring? he requires further explanation about this line from the Albanian party. In the point 5,2/1 the authors explain that there was a regional war between serbs and bosne-hecergovinians, which is not true. Regarding the stations, in the south-east there are many monitoring points, Skejaj, Montenegro and Shiroka, Zogaj, Albania. Referring to the Albanian party they have suggested Shiroka and Zogaj as dirty spots. I think this is about local activities that can be changed. The authors have not refered or consulted the scientific works of the Hydrological Institute, that works on the results of monitoring. In conclusion: The Report did not reveal any news. I suggest it be revised. This can be done by Albanian and Montenegrin experts and the money to be send to the group for monitoring of the lake. I have a general question: How did the experts of the Institute proceed with carrying out the monitoring? The content of this report is known. Expecting concrete facts, for the joint monitoring to work out. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    All the national parks are under the direction of the central Park in Montenegro. For every area we have experts. The experts that worked on this report have been given the 5-year plan for developing the Lake of Shkodra , where were included the Work Plans for 2011-2016. In a brief reading of the Report, I would like to note some faults: 1-In the National Park of Lake Shkodra, the report says there are 5 reserves for birds, but there are actually only 2. We plan on opening 2 more in Cerni }ar and Omerova Gorica. 2-It writes about some bird species that live on strong ground, the report announces that they live in swamp. My colegue Ms. Leaevi  suggested this error and I noted it. 3-They define some species of birds that do not actually live in Lake Skadar. This report should be reviewed by the real experts of Lake Skadar and then this information should be shared with the WGs for monitoring. Milena Batakovi -  Suggesting to the coordinators to give us some time to prepare and give our feedback to the authors in the next meeting. Desiring that our questions get answered by the authors. Novak Cadjenovic The point is that this report must be useful to the institutions. The status of this report is advanced and until the end two more reports are predicted. For this report and future reports we expect suggestions and comments that will be given to the authors from the WGs. Agim Shimaj I advice that you discuss this project in Montenegro, in the presence of the consultant. Islam Lacaj I agree with Mr. Novak that until May 10th we expect comments and suggestions. Anila Neziri I cannot decide the pollution sources because in Albania there are no Industrial companies. Pavle Duraakovi    I do not hold myself to suggest the monitoring spots, but the point is to carry out the monitoring process for the local pollution spots. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    We as a National Park have received a plan from the Albanian forum. They have education values for which we have made our suggestions but havent gotten replies so far. Novak Cadjenovic This is joint activity, acitivity implemented by Albanian side , maybe Agim will answer?. Agim Shimaj Regarding the campaign of public awareness we have three contrats, related to the procurament plan. So far we only have one contrat. The idea is to hear your ideas about what the next campaign contract will be about. But this activity must firstly be approved by both coordinators. The international Forum accepted our suggestion and we are waiting for the upcoming meeting. Promotional materials have been prepared in three languages, themes about the culture, biodiversity, etc. Novak Cadjenovic In what joint activity educational kit is foreseen to be presented? Agim Shimaj This hasnt been predicted as another activity but as a meantime event. I think that the campaign of public awareness should be constant. Veselinka Vuk esvi    Education Kit should consist only on the Albanian Forum or also the Montenegrin? Agim Shimaj   The Forum is international. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    We have offered our help and our experts. We have offered a low-paying illustrator. They brought us an Education Kit which we have criticized. Agim Shimaj It is important that the actors cooperate and since the NPSL is an important actor with whom the International Forum must cooperate. Without communication with you, I have made the same comments about the Education Kit. I have demanded that the Forum bring their experts and their final draft of this document. Rezarta Ago Our organization has organized campaigns where the public awareness was an essential component. CC (carbon copy) e-mails could be send to coordinatiors and forums, to make sure they all got the comments. Agim Shimaj Regarding the 6th point of the Agenda, the common consultant will present his report on Friday (tomorrow), therefore I propose we pass on to the next point of the agenda. Regarding the 7th point of the agenda, WGs have given the idea of the Eurotrofication of Lake Skadar. We have got the attention of two respective universities and one company who have an interest in this matter. Pavle Duraakovi    I work with a NGO, which is interested to know why it has not been notified to compete, and it is interensted to have the forms and to know what documents are required in order to be able to compete. Agim Shimaj   We work accordingly the criteria of the WB. We have published on the projects website, and of both respective ministries to gain the interest and attention. Moving on to another point. How can we have two project e.i. Tourism, Water, etc. In which should we concentrate? Igor Vuja i    During the previous meetings of the project, two studies have been proposed to be implemented by the Project: Dorni Moric and one in the Albanian party. It has been suggested that the small plan be included in the big plan and for Moric the focus is tourism. Ivana Bulatovi   Fish assessment? Novak and Agim  The project is under process, we are currently working on the report. The selection is done and with the Montenegrin party are working the selected experts. The final Progress Report and the Project Report with be send to the WGs for water menagment via e-mail. Conclusion * The Working Plan should be reconstructed. In the future WGs will meet separately, only once a year all WGs together(or more,as Wg members agree). Time of the separate WG meetings and Agenda will be communicated with members of respective WG(s) by the Secretariat and mutually agreed. In that regard, Revised work plan for the WG will be prepared by the Secretariat , and communicated with WG members and coordinators for comments and suggestions. Any materials for the WG meeting should be submitted at least two weeks in advance to members of WG and material relevant to the implementation of the Project will be submitted by two coordinators to the Secretariat for timely dissemination * Secretary should start contacting the respective institutions in order to start replacing the WGs members or to add more members now. *Predective Hidrological model Progress Report on Skadar-Shkoder Lake Monitoring Program Development )./07 8 9 : ; B R T U   ; ? 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If no comments received until 10 Mat, WG will deliver such comments(if any) after the 10 May to be considered by the Consultants in later stage of reporting. Annex 1. List of Participants Name and SurnameOrganisationWGs Membere-mail AddressRrezearta AgoMKI HYPERLINK "mailto:rrezearta.ago@milieukontankt@.org" rrezearta.ago@milieukontankt@.org Islam LaajForestry Direc.AlbaniaLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:Islam-lacaj@live.com" Islam-lacaj@live.com Tonin MacajForestry Direc.AlbaniaLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:Toninmacaj68@gmail.com" Toninmacaj68@gmail.com Petrit ImerajForestry Direc.AlbaniaTourism HYPERLINK "mailto:pimeraj@yahoo.com" pimeraj@yahoo.com Ivana BulatovicEPA MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Ivana.bulatovic@epa.org.me" Ivana.bulatovic@epa.org.me Milena BatakovicEPA MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Milena.batakovic@epa.org.me" Milena.batakovic@epa.org.me Hajdana IlicRozovicNPLSMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Np-skadarlake@t-com.me" Np-skadarlake@t-com.me Veselinka VukcevicCapital City Podgorica MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:v.vukcevic@pggrad.co.me" v.vukcevic@pggrad.co.me Igor VujacicMSE MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:igorvujacic@mse.gov.me" igorvujacic@mse.gov.me Ivana PavicevicHMI MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:office@meteo.co.me" office@meteo.co.me Pavle DuraskovicHMI MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Pavle.duraskovic@meteo.co.me" Pavle.duraskovic@meteo.co.me Novak CedjenovicLSIEMPCoordinator HYPERLINK "mailto:novak.cadjenovic@mrt.gov.me" novak.cadjenovic@mrt.gov.me Agim ShimajLSIEMPCoordinator HYPERLINK "mailto:a_shimaj@yahoo.com" a_shimaj@yahoo.com Nihat DragotMEFWAMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:ndragoti@moe.gov.al" ndragoti@moe.gov.al Elvana RamajMEFWAMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:eramaj@moe.gov.al" eramaj@moe.gov.al Skender HasaMEFWALegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:shasa@moe.gov.al" shasa@moe.gov.al Anila NeziriUniversity of Shkodra-AlbaniaMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:anilaneziri@yahoo.com" anilaneziri@yahoo.com Nevila BushatiUniversity of Shkodra-AlbaniaMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:nevilabushati@yahoo.com" nevilabushati@yahoo.com Gezim LezajFishing OrganisationLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:gezimlezaj@yahoo.com" gezimlezaj@yahoo.com Arjan inariFishing OrganisationLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:arjancinari@yahoo.com" arjancinari@yahoo.com Ilir KrajaSLCSecretary HYPERLINK "mailto:ilirkraja@gmail.com" ilirkraja@gmail.com  Annex 2. 1.Progress Report for development of Lake Predictive Hydrological Model . 2.Progress report on Skadar-Shkoder Lake Monitoring Program development. 3.Joint Monitoring program and discussion on Its Implementation, Monitoring Indicators and methods. 4. 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The meeting session was opened by the secretary of SLC, presenting the agenda and all the participants. Novak Cadjenovic Commented the agenda and the functioning of the WGs in general. This is my first meeting of the WGs and I think the Work Plan should be reconstructed. About the agenda topics, all the working group members have to be present. I am talking about the future work of the WGs. In the future WGs should meet separately. (The material will be prepared by the two coordinators and they will hand it to the WGs, to make things more efficient) Working materials for each WG should be prepared in advance as well as respective Agenda and in close communication with WG members by secretariat. Coordinators will be glad to provide project documentation relevant to the subject of WG meetings if any. Nihat Dragoti I agree with the idea to rethink the Work Plan and create specific WGs. We should try to contact qualified people and experts. I suggest that the Work Plan schedule a meeting to include all the groups, in order to raise the quality of the work. Agim Shimaj  The object of this project is to strengthen the across-border structures: WGs, SLC and Secretariat and if the project is closed in 2012, the work of these structures must keep going on. I agree that the WGs have the agenda two weeks before the meetings. This agenda must not consider the project only, but also the problems that the two Ministries have to face. I suggest to start with the agendas preparation within the WGs and then that they be discussed with the ministries and the local government. The WGs should be separated because the topics are defined for each WG. If they are two smilliar topics for two WGs, they could be discussed together, e.i. Monitoring and Waters, and annually all the WGs could meet, be their will to set a date for that meeting. Another suggestion that I have is for the Albanian Party, that its time to reorganise the WGs, because they members who do not even participate in meetings. I suggest that the secretary should start contacting the respective institutions in order to start replacing them. Since the foundation of the WGs, two years ago, changes have taken place that have proved to be very helpful, because with replacing the members that didnt contribute enough I think there is space to add more members now. I think that the members of the WGs could also discuss with each-other via e-mails, since meetings are scheduled, but its important that they work together in the mean time. Petrit Ymeraj The project ends in 2012. I do not see how changing the WGs now can help, because we have discussed this two years ago. The WGs have been the most nobel part of this project, because they are professionals and they have volunteered to work here. I call upon all participants that we use this time maximally and raise our cooperation in protecting and promoting the Lake of Shkodra. Rrezarta Ago I have a suggestion for the WGs. If its possible to review the Work Plan by Mr. Novak and Mr. Agim, to be discussed in the Ministries and Secretariat. Bearing in mind that in Shkoder there are donors who work, and their work could be related with our project here, we have opportunities for promotion and realization of the project. In conclusion we must unite. Pavle Duraakovi    Having considered the agenda, lets take turns, each group lets discuss in turns. Novak Cadjenovic Expecting from Mr. Ilir that the conclusions made today will included in the minutes of meeting, that WGs have agreed that for the future, we start work with the existing agenda. It is essential that we include in the WGs, individuals that are experts and have qualifications related to our project to improve quality of discussion. Confident in the Secretary to reorganise the Work Plan, to set the dates and the agenda points and to contact and add more members in the WGs. The Progress Report has been predicted to be discussed in the WGs, but I believe that WGs should discuss other issues such as: Deepening of Buna, Water plants of Ashta and Moraa, and any otherissues that members of WG agree upon. Ivana Pavi evi    Taking into account that I have just been handed this PHM report today, I have not got any comment regarding it, so far. Skender Hasa   Declaring that after the meeting of both Ministries, the Albanian party is collaborating with the WB and the process on the credit of flooding emergencies is almost over. Novak Cadjenovic It is hard to discuss if the documentation is not delivered timely and prior the meeting. Writing comments can be submitted to the Secretariat or coordinators after the meeting and I believe that we will have time in the next meeting to discuss progress on this issue . Pavle Duraakovi    I have read the English and the Montenegrin version of the Monitoring Progress Report, that do not match completely. I feel I have to present some suggestions and comments, that I will edit and present in the next meeting. Comment: He makes a short analysis eg. Table 16 In Sterbec, as a hotspot and a center for continuing monitoring? he requires further explanation about this line from the Albanian party. In the point 5,2/1 the authors explain that there was a regional war between serbs and bosne-hecergovinians, which is not true. Regarding the stations, in the south-east there are many monitoring points, Skejaj, Montenegro and Shiroka, Zogaj, Albania. Referring to the Albanian party they have suggested Shiroka and Zogaj as dirty spots. I think this is about local activities that can be changed. The authors have not refered or consulted the scientific works of the Hydrological Institute, that works on the results of monitoring. In conclusion: The Report did not reveal any news. I suggest it be revised. This can be done by Albanian and Montenegrin experts and the money to be send to the group for monitoring of the lake. I have a general question: How did the experts of the Institute proceed with carrying out the monitoring? The content of this report is known. Expecting concrete facts, for the joint monitoring to work out. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    All the national parks are under the direction of the central Park in Montenegro. For every area we have experts. The experts that worked on this report have been given the 5-year plan for developing the Lake of Shkodra , where were included the Work Plans for 2011-2016. In a brief reading of the Report, I would like to note some faults: 1-In the National Park of Lake Shkodra, the report says there are 5 reserves for birds, but there are actually only 2. We plan on opening 2 more in Cerni }ar and Omerova Gorica. 2-It writes about some bird species that live on strong ground, the report announces that they live in swamp. My colegue Ms. Leaevi  suggested this error and I noted it. 3-They define some species of birds that do not actually live in Lake Skadar. This report should be reviewed by the real experts of Lake Skadar and then this information should be shared with the WGs for monitoring. Milena Batakovi -  Suggesting to the coordinators to give us some time to prepare and give our feedback to the authors in the next meeting. Desiring that our questions get answered by the authors. Novak Cadjenovic The point is that this report must be useful to the institutions. The status of this report is advanced and until the end two more reports are predicted. For this report and future reports we expect suggestions and comments that will be given to the authors from the WGs. Agim Shimaj I advice that you discuss this project in Montenegro, in the presence of the consultant. Islam Lacaj I agree with Mr. Novak that until May 10th we expect comments and suggestions. Anila Neziri I cannot decide the pollution sources because in Albania there are no Industrial companies. Pavle Duraakovi    I do not hold myself to suggest the monitoring spots, but the point is to carry out the monitoring process for the local pollution spots. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    We as a National Park have received a plan from the Albanian forum. They have education values for which we have made our suggestions but havent gotten replies so far. Novak Cadjenovic This is joint activity, acitivity implemented by Albanian side , maybe Agim will answer?. Agim Shimaj Regarding the campaign of public awareness we have three contrats, related to the procurament plan. So far we only have one contrat. The idea is to hear your ideas about what the next campaign contract will be about. But this activity must firstly be approved by both coordinators. The international Forum accepted our suggestion and we are waiting for the upcoming meeting. Promotional materials have been prepared in three languages, themes about the culture, biodiversity, etc. Novak Cadjenovic In what joint activity educational kit is foreseen to be presented? Agim Shimaj This hasnt been predicted as another activity but as a meantime event. I think that the campaign of public awareness should be constant. Veselinka Vuk esvi    Education Kit should consist only on the Albanian Forum or also the Montenegrin? Agim Shimaj   The Forum is international. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    We have offered our help and our experts. We have offered a low-paying illustrator. They brought us an Education Kit which we have criticized. Agim Shimaj It is important that the actors cooperate and since the NPSL is an important actor with whom the International Forum must cooperate. Without communication with you, I have made the same comments about the Education Kit. I have demanded that the Forum bring their experts and their final draft of this document. Rezarta Ago Our organization has organized campaigns where the public awareness was an essential component. CC (carbon copy) e-mails could be send to coordinatiors and forums, to make sure they all got the comments. Agim Shimaj Regarding the 6th point of the Agenda, the common consultant will present his report on Friday (tomorrow), therefore I propose we pass on to the next point of the agenda. Regarding the 7th point of the agenda, WGs have given the idea of the Eurotrofication of Lake Skadar. We have got the attention of two respective universities and one company who have an interest in this matter. Pavle Duraakovi    I work with a NGO, which is interested to know why it has not been notified to compete, and it is interensted to have the forms and to know what documents are required in order to be able to compete. Agim Shimaj   We work accordingly the criteria of the WB. We have published on the projects website, and of both respective ministries to gain the interest and attention. Moving on to another point. How can we have two project e.i. Tourism, Water, etc. In which should we concentrate? Igor Vuja i    During the previous meetings of the project, two studies have been proposed to be implemented by the Project: Dorni Moric and one in the Albanian party. It has been suggested that the small plan be included in the big plan and for Moric the focus is tourism. Ivana Bulatovi   Fish assessment? Novak and Agim  The project is under process, we are currently working on the report. The selection is done and with the Montenegrin party are working the selected experts. The final Progress Report and the Project Report with be send to the WGs for water menagment via e-mail. Conclusion * The Working Plan should be reconstructed. In the future WGs will meet separately, only once a year all WGs together(or more,as Wg members agree). Time of the separate WG meetings and Agenda will be communicated with members of respective WG(s) by the Secretariat and mutually agreed. In that regard, Revised work plan for the WG will be prepared by the Secretariat , and communicated with WG members and coordinators for comments and suggestions. Any materials for the WG meeting should be submitted at least two weeks in advance to members of WG and material relevant to the implementation of the Project will be submitted by two coordinators to the Secretariat for timely dissemination * Secretary should start contacting the respective institutions in order to start replacing the WGs members or to add more members now. *Predective Hidrological model Progress Report on Skadar-Shkoder Lake Monitoring Program Development )./07 8 9 : ; B R T U   ; ? 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If no comments received until 10 Mat, WG will deliver such comments(if any) after the 10 May to be considered by the Consultants in later stage of reporting. Annex 1. List of Participants Name and SurnameOrganisationWGs Membere-mail AddressRrezearta AgoMKI HYPERLINK "mailto:rrezearta.ago@milieukontankt@.org" rrezearta.ago@milieukontankt@.org Islam LaajForestry Direc.AlbaniaLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:Islam-lacaj@live.com" Islam-lacaj@live.com Tonin MacajForestry Direc.AlbaniaLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:Toninmacaj68@gmail.com" Toninmacaj68@gmail.com Petrit ImerajForestry Direc.AlbaniaTourism HYPERLINK "mailto:pimeraj@yahoo.com" pimeraj@yahoo.com Ivana BulatovicEPA MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Ivana.bulatovic@epa.org.me" Ivana.bulatovic@epa.org.me Milena BatakovicEPA MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Milena.batakovic@epa.org.me" Milena.batakovic@epa.org.me Hajdana IlicRozovicNPLSMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Np-skadarlake@t-com.me" Np-skadarlake@t-com.me Veselinka VukcevicCapital City Podgorica MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:v.vukcevic@pggrad.co.me" v.vukcevic@pggrad.co.me Igor VujacicMSE MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:igorvujacic@mse.gov.me" igorvujacic@mse.gov.me Ivana PavicevicHMI MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:office@meteo.co.me" office@meteo.co.me Pavle DuraskovicHMI MontenegroMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:Pavle.duraskovic@meteo.co.me" Pavle.duraskovic@meteo.co.me Novak CedjenovicLSIEMPCoordinator HYPERLINK "mailto:novak.cadjenovic@mrt.gov.me" novak.cadjenovic@mrt.gov.me Agim ShimajLSIEMPCoordinator HYPERLINK "mailto:a_shimaj@yahoo.com" a_shimaj@yahoo.com Nihat DragotMEFWAMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:ndragoti@moe.gov.al" ndragoti@moe.gov.al Elvana RamajMEFWAMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:eramaj@moe.gov.al" eramaj@moe.gov.al Skender HasaMEFWALegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:shasa@moe.gov.al" shasa@moe.gov.al Anila NeziriUniversity of Shkodra-AlbaniaMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:anilaneziri@yahoo.com" anilaneziri@yahoo.com Nevila BushatiUniversity of Shkodra-AlbaniaMonitoring HYPERLINK "mailto:nevilabushati@yahoo.com" nevilabushati@yahoo.com Gezim LezajFishing OrganisationLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:gezimlezaj@yahoo.com" gezimlezaj@yahoo.com Arjan inariFishing OrganisationLegislation HYPERLINK "mailto:arjancinari@yahoo.com" arjancinari@yahoo.com Ilir KrajaSLCSecretary HYPERLINK "mailto:ilirkraja@gmail.com" ilirkraja@gmail.com  Annex 2. 1.Progress Report for development of Lake Predictive Hydrological Model . 2.Progress report on Skadar-Shkoder Lake Monitoring Program development. 3.Joint Monitoring program and discussion on Its Implementation, Monitoring Indicators and methods. 4. Discussion on water management, Flood management, water use and water monitoring. 5.Public Awareness Campaigns, Education and Promotion. 6.Discussion on Management Plan and Legal Harmonization 7.Discuss their ideas on two other studies to be conducted in the frame of LSIEMP. 8. Miscellaneous. 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The meeting session was opened by the secretary of SLC, presenting the agenda and all the participants. Novak Cadjenovic Commented the agenda and the functioning of the WGs in general. This is my first meeting of the WGs and I think the Work Plan should be reconstructed. About the agenda topics, all the working group members have to be present. I am talking about the future work of the WGs. In the future WGs should meet separately. (The material will be prepared by the two coordinators and they will hand it to the WGs, to make things more efficient) Working materials for each WG should be prepared in advance as well as respective Agenda and in close communication with WG members by secretariat. Coordinators will be glad to provide project documentation relevant to the subject of WG meetings if any. Nihat Dragoti I agree with the idea to rethink the Work Plan and create specific WGs. We should try to contact qualified people and experts. I suggest that the Work Plan schedule a meeting to include all the groups, in order to raise the quality of the work. Agim Shimaj  The object of this project is to strengthen the across-border structures: WGs, SLC and Secretariat and if the project is closed in 2012, the work of these structures must keep going on. I agree that the WGs have the agenda two weeks before the meetings. This agenda must not consider the project only, but also the problems that the two Ministries have to face. I suggest to start with the agendas preparation within the WGs and then that they be discussed with the ministries and the local government. The WGs should be separated because the topics are defined for each WG. If they are two smilliar topics for two WGs, they could be discussed together, e.i. Monitoring and Waters, and annually all the WGs could meet, be their will to set a date for that meeting. Another suggestion that I have is for the Albanian Party, that its time to reorganise the WGs, because they members who do not even participate in meetings. I suggest that the secretary should start contacting the respective institutions in order to start replacing them. Since the foundation of the WGs, two years ago, changes have taken place that have proved to be very helpful, because with replacing the members that didnt contribute enough I think there is space to add more members now. I think that the members of the WGs could also discuss with each-other via e-mails, since meetings are scheduled, but its important that they work together in the mean time. Petrit Ymeraj The project ends in 2012. I do not see how changing the WGs now can help, because we have discussed this two years ago. The WGs have been the most nobel part of this project, because they are professionals and they have volunteered to work here. I call upon all participants that we use this time maximally and raise our cooperation in protecting and promoting the Lake of Shkodra. Rrezarta Ago I have a suggestion for the WGs. If its possible to review the Work Plan by Mr. Novak and Mr. Agim, to be discussed in the Ministries and Secretariat. Bearing in mind that in Shkoder there are donors who work, and their work could be related with our project here, we have opportunities for promotion and realization of the project. In conclusion we must unite. Pavle Duraakovi    Having considered the agenda, lets take turns, each group lets discuss in turns. Novak Cadjenovic Expecting from Mr. Ilir that the conclusions made today will included in the minutes of meeting, that WGs have agreed that for the future, we start work with the existing agenda. It is essential that we include in the WGs, individuals that are experts and have qualifications related to our project to improve quality of discussion. Confident in the Secretary to reorganise the Work Plan, to set the dates and the agenda points and to contact and add more members in the WGs. The Progress Report has been predicted to be discussed in the WGs, but I believe that WGs should discuss other issues such as: Deepening of Buna, Water plants of Ashta and Moraa, and any otherissues that members of WG agree upon. Ivana Pavi evi    Taking into account that I have just been handed this PHM report today, I have not got any comment regarding it, so far. Skender Hasa   Declaring that after the meeting of both Ministries, the Albanian party is collaborating with the WB and the process on the credit of flooding emergencies is almost over. Novak Cadjenovic It is hard to discuss if the documentation is not delivered timely and prior the meeting. Writing comments can be submitted to the Secretariat or coordinators after the meeting and I believe that we will have time in the next meeting to discuss progress on this issue . Pavle Duraakovi    I have read the English and the Montenegrin version of the Monitoring Progress Report, that do not match completely. I feel I have to present some suggestions and comments, that I will edit and present in the next meeting. Comment: He makes a short analysis eg. Table 16 In Sterbec, as a hotspot and a center for continuing monitoring? he requires further explanation about this line from the Albanian party. In the point 5,2/1 the authors explain that there was a regional war between serbs and bosne-hecergovinians, which is not true. Regarding the stations, in the south-east there are many monitoring points, Skejaj, Montenegro and Shiroka, Zogaj, Albania. Referring to the Albanian party they have suggested Shiroka and Zogaj as dirty spots. I think this is about local activities that can be changed. The authors have not refered or consulted the scientific works of the Hydrological Institute, that works on the results of monitoring. In conclusion: The Report did not reveal any news. I suggest it be revised. This can be done by Albanian and Montenegrin experts and the money to be send to the group for monitoring of the lake. I have a general question: How did the experts of the Institute proceed with carrying out the monitoring? The content of this report is known. Expecting concrete facts, for the joint monitoring to work out. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    All the national parks are under the direction of the central Park in Montenegro. For every area we have experts. The experts that worked on this report have been given the 5-year plan for developing the Lake of Shkodra , where were included the Work Plans for 2011-2016. In a brief reading of the Report, I would like to note some faults: 1-In the National Park of Lake Shkodra, the report says there are 5 reserves for birds, but there are actually only 2. We plan on opening 2 more in Cerni }ar and Omerova Gorica. 2-It writes about some bird species that live on strong ground, the report announces that they live in swamp. My colegue Ms. Leaevi  suggested this error and I noted it. 3-They define some species of birds that do not actually live in Lake Skadar. This report should be reviewed by the real experts of Lake Skadar and then this information should be shared with the WGs for monitoring. Milena Batakovi -  Suggesting to the coordinators to give us some time to prepare and give our feedback to the authors in the next meeting. Desiring that our questions get answered by the authors. Novak Cadjenovic The point is that this report must be useful to the institutions. The status of this report is advanced and until the end two more reports are predicted. For this report and future reports we expect suggestions and comments that will be given to the authors from the WGs. Agim Shimaj I advice that you discuss this project in Montenegro, in the presence of the consultant. Islam Lacaj I agree with Mr. Novak that until May 10th we expect comments and suggestions. Anila Neziri I cannot decide the pollution sources because in Albania there are no Industrial companies. Pavle Duraakovi    I do not hold myself to suggest the monitoring spots, but the point is to carry out the monitoring process for the local pollution spots. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    We as a National Park have received a plan from the Albanian forum. They have education values for which we have made our suggestions but havent gotten replies so far. Novak Cadjenovic This is joint activity, acitivity implemented by Albanian side , maybe Agim will answer?. Agim Shimaj Regarding the campaign of public awareness we have three contrats, related to the procurament plan. So far we only have one contrat. The idea is to hear your ideas about what the next campaign contract will be about. But this activity must firstly be approved by both coordinators. The international Forum accepted our suggestion and we are waiting for the upcoming meeting. Promotional materials have been prepared in three languages, themes about the culture, biodiversity, etc. Novak Cadjenovic In what joint activity educational kit is foreseen to be presented? Agim Shimaj This hasnt been predicted as another activity but as a meantime event. I think that the campaign of public awareness should be constant. Veselinka Vuk esvi    Education Kit should consist only on the Albanian Forum or also the Montenegrin? Agim Shimaj   The Forum is international. Hajdana Ili  Ro~ovi    We have offered our help and our experts. We have offered a low-paying illustrator. They brought us an Education Kit which we have criticized. Agim Shimaj It is important that the actors cooperate and since the NPSL is an important actor with whom the International Forum must cooperate. Without communication with you, I have made the same comments about the Education Kit. I have demanded that the Forum bring their experts and their final draft of this document. Rezarta Ago Our organization has organized campaigns where the public awareness was an essential component. CC (carbon copy) e-mails could be send to coordinatiors and forums, to make sure they all got the comments. Agim Shimaj Regarding the 6th point of the Agenda, the common consultant will present his report on Friday (tomorrow), therefore I propose we pass on to the next point of the agenda. Regarding the 7th point of the agenda, WGs have given the idea of the Eurotrofication of Lake Skadar. We have got the attention of two respective universities and one company who have an interest in this matter.